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PostSubject: I almost wish they'd won....   Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:40 pm

,,,,think of the humor value over the next four years!

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PostSubject: Re: I almost wish they'd won....   Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:54 pm

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,,,,think of the humor value over the next four years!


What I found funny is how they covered up the killing of the turkey like it was pornographic.

When I traveled to less urban parts of the US and Canada...never been to Alaska...I find people there are surprised how squeamish the rest of the country is. They are quite open about the fact that animals are killed in the food gathering process. Even locally, there is one of few remaining places where you can go buy fresh eggs or a freshly killed (still warm) chicken yet I have seen people in there quite often who seem at odds with the fact the chicken must be killed before they can take it home and eat it.

It also seems rather obvious that if the news people wanted to avoid this disturbing background they could have focused more on Palin's face or repositioned the camera. I guess they didn't want to miss another opportunity to make someone look silly, because isn't that what journalism is all about?
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PostSubject: Re: I almost wish they'd won....   Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:29 am

From today's Washington Examiner:



Palin can't win unless she stops the drama

By: Chris Stirewalt
Political Editor
July 6, 2009

Sarah Palin learned a lot of things in her time as John McCain's running mate -- about the savagery of the media; about the duplicity of politicos; about her own gifts as a politician.

But she did not learn the most important lesson of 2008: no drama.

The passing months show how right Barack Obama's critics, starting with Hillary Clinton, were about his inexperience. But his supreme overconfidence prevents the caution humility would suggest.

The waves are well over the bow of the ship of state now, yet Obama's White House seems to change course almost hourly.

What hasn't happened is much unnecessary drama. There were the income tax problems, and Clinton's team at State has started discreetly briefing against Obama's foreign policy, but he and his people have behaved remarkably well. No backbiting. Limited leaks. On message. Few surprises.

We can see problems ahead as the first lady tightens her grip on the administration. Sooner or later there will be a showdown as the president leaves it to his staff to deal with her while he bums another Marlboro Light on the front nine at Fort Belvoir.

But that's still ahead. For now, the harmony, unity and secrecy that were the watchwords of the Obama organization during the 2008 campaign mostly remain.

Team Obama understood the advantage it had with the members of the media with the first-ever serious black presidential contender, particularly a liberal who talks like a hip sociology professor.

But even with the wind blowing strongly at their backs, Obama and his men didn't indulge themselves in distracting sideshows.

The McCain campaign, meanwhile, was so dysfunctional that its members are still recriminating eight months later. Campaign manager Steve Schmidt and foreign policy adviser Randy Scheunemann are still braying at each other over Scheunemann's alleged leaks. As if it mattered anymore.

McCain didn't lose the election on Nov. 4. He lost it on Sept. 24, when he suspended his campaign, sort of.

With Wall Street imploding and then-Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson pushing the first $700 billion bailout, McCain said he would stop campaigning and go back to Washington.

But what McCain really did was do an interview with Katie Couric, stop by the Clinton Global Initiative for a speech, and then go along with what President George W. Bush and Obama were saying: A bailout was a necessary evil.

The final, clattering end of McCain's chance came two days later when he gave an unremarkable performance in a debate that he said should have been canceled. All Obama had to do was not act too smug and be plausibly presidential. Just by McCain showing up, the Democrat had won the debate.

Imagine if McCain had taken the same approach to the bailout as he had with the Iraq war.

McCain helped secure Iraq by being willing to lose an election if that meant winning a war. His steadfast backing of the surge in Iraq ended up benefiting his campaign, though. It won him the nomination and made Obama sweat his flippant dismissal of the strategy.

What if McCain had actually suspended his campaign and come back to Washington to fight against the bailout? What if Obama had debated an empty chair as McCain held the Senate floor arguing against the package? It would have been a dramatic move instead of just needless drama.

Palin, though, did not seem to take the lesson. Instead, she seems to feed on drama.

And it's not that she needs to go looking for it.

David Letterman's gross, unfunny joke about Palin's teenage daughter, the ongoing skirmish among the former McCainiacs and the frivolous ethics complaints against her by Democratic hacks are all just part of life for Palin these days. But rather than rising above the squalor, Palin has fully engaged on each point. She stayed in the headlines blasting washed-up Letterman for days, continued to dish about the failings of McCain's campaign and quit office blaming the ethics complaints for her departure.

There is always a lot of sound and fury around Palin, but does it signify anything other than her status as a celebrity?

As a deeply polarizing candidate, she has 18 months left to convince the shrinking pool of undecided voters that she can be a calm, steady hand in an unstable world.

More drama like the kind she indulged in Friday will take her down the same path McCain followed last fall.


Chris Stirewalt is the political editor of The Washington Examiner. He can be reached at cstirewalt@washingtonexaminer.com.
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PostSubject: Re: I almost wish they'd won....   Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:39 am

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Palin can't win unless she stops the drama

Oh come on...can't they just admit Palin can't win and let us forget about this horrid error in political judgement and move on?
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PostSubject: Re: I almost wish they'd won....   Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:54 am

quitters never win, and winners never quit.


alls I'm saying.
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PostSubject: Re: I almost wish they'd won....   Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:18 am

I hate one-sentence paragraphs. Ol' Chris needs an editor. Or maybe readers need a longer attention span? I'm not sure.

Oh yeah...and what Ag said. WORD.
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PostSubject: Re: I almost wish they'd won....   Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:28 pm

Agent 13 wrote:
i95 wrote:


Palin can't win unless she stops the drama

Oh come on...can't they just admit Palin can't win and let us forget about this horrid error in political judgement and move on?

"move on?"

Holy crap, you're one of them.
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PostSubject: Re: I almost wish they'd won....   Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:34 pm

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Holy crap, you're one of them.

Who?
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PostSubject: Re: I almost wish they'd won....   Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:20 pm

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Agent 13 wrote:
i95 wrote:


Palin can't win unless she stops the drama

Oh come on...can't they just admit Palin can't win and let us forget about this horrid error in political judgement and move on?

"move on?"

Holy crap, you're one of them.

No, I'd like move on to move on too. They are another bunch of irritating ass hats
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PostSubject: Re: I almost wish they'd won....   Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:32 am

you know what she's gonna make on the speaker's tour? about 50k per speech.
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PostSubject: Re: I almost wish they'd won....   Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:59 am

Sounds like reason enough to blow off a civil service gig.

I really don't understand how people that are that stupid can be allowed to handle such sums of money.
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PostSubject: Re: I almost wish they'd won....   Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:15 am

Paging Kellie Pickler.

Kellie Pickler, please pick up the white courtesy phone.

Side note to Ms. Pickler - the white courtesy phone is the one with the absence of color. It is not the red courtesy phone.
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PostSubject: Re: I almost wish they'd won....   Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:34 pm

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Side note to Ms. Pickler - the white courtesy phone is the one with the absence of color. It is not the red courtesy phone.

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